Planning consultant Sam Schwartz addresses participants at Tuesdays meeting held by Greater Gansevoort Urban Improvement Project.
Gansevoort project group told to think big and crazy
By Lawrence Lerner
Chelsea and West Village residents got an unprecedented chance to reshape the Meatpacking District Tuesday night at a public brainstorming session held at Fulton Houses Community Center by the areas newest community group, the Greater Gansevoort Urban Improvement Project.
Coming on the heels of a study commissioned by the group in November, which looked at motor and pedestrian traffic in the area bounded by W. 16th and Gansevoort Sts. between Ninth Ave. and the Hudson River, the public meeting made good on a promise to include the community in future plans for the district.
The goal of Tuesdays gathering was to brainstorm ideas for a small but central part of the area, the Ninth Ave. corridor between Gansevoort and 16th Sts. Jo Hamilton, a member of the projects steering committee, kicked things off by addressing the approximately 80 participants.
I know many of you thought youd be hearing the results of our study tonight, and learning about what our consultants have come up with, but thats not the case, she said. The consultants have come up with nothing so far. Theyre relying on you and hoping for your input to make this a more meaningful process.
With the districts historic buildings, wide streets and open plazas offering vast potential for the creation of a welcoming public space, the improvement project has several objectives in mind, including promoting pedestrian safety, reducing the negative impacts of vehicular traffic and creating a sense of place in the Gansevoort area.
The groups initiative has gained momentum as nightlife, high-end retailing, art galleries and remnants of the wholesale meat industry bring crowds of pedestrians, cabs and trucks to the Gansevoort Market District, and the proposed 2008 opening of the High Lines southern end promises to make the area even more of a destination.
Planning consultant Sam Schwartz, former commissioner of the citys Department of Transportation, took over Tuesdays meeting where Hamilton left off, emphasizing D.O.T.s recent decision to make the traffic on Ninth Ave. between 14th and 16th Sts. one-way southbound, which in his words, presents enormous opportunities for the group assembled here tonight. He also noted the peak weekend traffic hours of 1 a.m. to 3 a.m. and said that 72 percent of stopped cars during these hours are double-parked.
In my 30 years with D.O.T., I d never seen statistics like this, he said. Clearly, something needs to be done.
Schwartz then had the participants break up into nine groups at round tables accommodating up to seven people each, upon which sat large maps of the Gansevoort District area under consideration. Each group was led through their brainstorming by urban planners from Schwartzs company and the Regional Plan Association.
Were taking a tabula rasa approach here, said Schwartz as the proceedings began. Were wiping the slate clean and asking you to offer up anything you want for this part of the district. As you get further into your discussions, youll hear me come around and say, Thats a crazy idea! And thats exactly what we want, because out of the most far-fetched ideas come some of the best proposals. So, think big and crazy.
As the discussions ensued, the groups placed a sizable piece of tracing paper over their respective maps and superimposed their ideas onto the paper with black markers.
Jee Mee Lee, vice president and director of planning at Schwartzs urban-planning company, Sam Schwartz PLLC, presided over a lively and far-reaching give-and-take on auto and pedestrian traffic, parking, the greening of Gansevoort Plaza the intersection of Ninth Ave. with Gansevoort, Greenwich and Little W. 12th Sts. and other topics with her group.
How do pedestrians cross the street safely here? a man at the table asked, pointing to an area in front of Chelsea Market.
Very carefully, responded another participant.
Thats definitely true, said Lee. But Im afraid D.O.T. wouldnt allow midblock crosswalks like the one youre suggesting, at least not without a traffic light, and theres a long, involved process for that.
Minutes later, a few tables away, West Village residents Elaine Young and Robert Isabel got into a passionate exchange about parking.
I dont own a business in the Meatpacking District, but where do you suggest people put cars? asked Young.
The Port Authority parking lot, piped up Isabel. Theres no reason for private cars to park in this area.
Yes, but if I owned a restaurant, Id want my patrons to have parking, Young retorted.
Well, cars start double-parking, and meat trucks come in at 2 a.m. and have nowhere to park. Thats always been a problem, replied Isabel, leaving Young to respond with resignation, I dont know. Although I respect your idea, that seems pretty harsh.
After an hour of these internal discussions, one person from each huddle presented their groups findings to the entire room. Issues that emerged included the continual logjams at the intersection at 14th St. and Ninth Ave., along with the need for taxi stands and efficient queuing of cabs to avoid congestion, underground parking garages, wider sidewalks to accommodate cafés and increased pedestrian flow, better signage and safer pedestrian crossings.
The small-group, hands-on format was a sterling example of participatory democracy in action, and that was precisely the intent of the meetings organizers.
By doing this, were bringing together people who know the neighborhood very well, said Josh David, co-founder of Friends of the Highline and a member of G.G.U.I.P.s steering committee. All have stored years of observations and ideas about how the area works and could work better. Many of these folks come to C.B. 4 meetings with complaints or opinions on city proposals. Tonight, with this format, they can be part of creating solutions, rather than just responding to other peoples dictums.
Hamilton put it another way: Each one of these tables is a microcosm of the community. Each has traffic and transportation people, residents, developers, business owners. You dont want each type sitting all together. This way, we get the broadest possible input from the community.
Representatives from the Department of City Planning and the Department of Transportation were also on hand for the meeting, as were staff members of various elected officials. D.O.T. and Planning have conducted their own studies of the area and are working with G.G.U.I.P. and its consultants to reshape the Meatpacking District. According to one Planning official at the gathering, the collaboration makes for a holistic approach to the rapidly changing neighborhood.
Jay Marcus, chairperson of C.B. 4s Transportation Committee, said the community board has also been in close touch with Hamiltons group and is awaiting the findings of Tuesdays meeting before weighing in on the matter.
C.B. 4 will likely back the communitys recommendations, though its important to remember we play only an advisory role, Marcus said after the workshop. Whats really important is the great job that Jos done by bringing the city agencies onboard. Well still have to lobby for any changes we want to the area, but with the agencies alongside us, they stand a much better chance of going through.
Schwartz was also pleased with the results of the meeting.
Im always so impressed when I go into meetings and hear great ideas such as, extend the L train along 14th St. I mean, why shouldnt the Meatpacking District be linked to the subway? said Schwartz. Or other ideas, such as what to do about buses that turn around at Abingdon Square and go north on Hudson St. people talked about reversing the flow of traffic there. Or adding sidewalk space between 14th and 16 Sts. on the west side of the Ninth Ave., where pedestrian traffic is greatest. Well take this information and do an internal charette, and ask questions like, Does any of this make sense? How about cost? This is exactly how the No. 7 train extension came about.
Over the winter, Schwartzs company will collate the findings from the D.O.T. and City Planning studies, as well as Tuesdays open meeting, then present them to the public in late spring or early summer. He said the consultants will then leave additional time for public input before issuing a final report by the end of the summer.